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john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for the tom harkin seat. is harkin retiring? we don't know for sure. that's been the long assumption. big opportunity for republicans midterm. iowa on top of the ticket. >> abs lieuly. >> already we know that there's going to be a real republican primary. mitch mcconnell and john corbin basically went about this in a placate the base, contindon't, know, disrupt this. and it failed. now, they're not getting blame and i'm surprised. >> here's the deal. in 2010 they did get involved in a lot of places. >> they tried. >> they tried. most
john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for...
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john boehner is dealing tw two tensions. he's trying to explain to his conference they have to increase leverage. they don't want to see a middle class tax hike as a result of them standing firm on all the brackets and then us going over the cliff and them being blamed. a political fight that would bruise them through 2013 and into '14, the year they want to pick up a majority in the senate and consolidate their majority in the house and look to the white house in 2016. so he's trying to convince them of the longer view while dealing with the fact many of them are extremely frustrated. they don't believe obama has a mandate, and they want to -- you know, they're spoiling for a fight. he's trying to work through thanksgiving. we're going to see any meat on this bone until after thanksgiving. everyone will take a time to sort of lick their wounds, and then he's hoping the leadership is hoping they can convince the conference to get this off of the table so there's no longer government on the brink and an emergency all the time
john boehner is dealing tw two tensions. he's trying to explain to his conference they have to increase leverage. they don't want to see a middle class tax hike as a result of them standing firm on all the brackets and then us going over the cliff and them being blamed. a political fight that would bruise them through 2013 and into '14, the year they want to pick up a majority in the senate and consolidate their majority in the house and look to the white house in 2016. so he's trying to...
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do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz will join us. >>> congresswoman gabby giffords will come face to face with the shooter who nearly took her life and the lives of 11 others. >>> why are we waiting on florida once again? we're going to talk to debbie wasserman schultz about her home state. president obama reelected. what should be the first thing on his agenda? . ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the farm...99 bushels of wheat! ♪ [ male announcer ] yep, there's 8 layers of whole grain fiber in those mini-wheats® biscuits... to help keep you full... ♪ 45 bushels of wheat on the farm. 45 bushels of wheat! ♪ ...all morning l
do you think the president needs a beer summit, mitch mcconnell, john boehner? the three get together and figure out how to work together. >> we need to get everybody in the room. everybody should be at the table, and everything should be on the table, and the time is now to do that. >> my power panel, thanks so much, gentlemen. i appreciate your insights. coming up in just a few minutes, i'm going to have a chance to talk to dnc chairwoman, congresswoman debbie waserman schultz...
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john boehner expected to hold a briefing. we'll take you back to that room as soon as the speaker begins. >>> the results of the election have been called a demo bomb. the president defying history to win back the white house with the minority vote. voters stood in line, some for hours, even after polls closed to cast ballots. joining me is ben gellis, president of the naacp. ahead of the election, much of it centered around voter suppression efforts around the country. now in an odd turn, karl rove has thrown out the theory that how the president won reelection. i want to show you. >> he succeeded by suppressing the vote. you may not like who i am, but i'm going to paint this other guy as a rich guy who only cares about himself. >> so president obama suppressed the vote. when we talk about voter suppression, there were real issues in florida and ohio and places where they were cutting back early voting. but is what we saw this week a backfire to what call the republican effort to suppress the vote. my voice will be heard. >>
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what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we know that failed because what happened after we tried that last time was jobs went down and the deficit went up. so i think the speaker shoumd do what he says that he wants to do. put this out in public. the president has put his plan in public. it was a central part of the debate. saying that folks at the higher end should pay more to reduce our deficit because if we don't ask them to chip in more, it means everybody else gets hit harder. >> you heard what he said. we're not going to raise taxes on small business. and for republicans,
what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we...
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look, i think the white house was pleasantly surprised and open to what john boehner said. i mean, obviously, they appreciated what they thought was a very thoughtful and well thought out position that speaker boehner made publicly about where he sees the negotiations, where he's publicly putting out there where he's willing to move for now. obviously, everything's in negotiation, everything's a little bit of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came out of mitch mcconnell's office office the election, and we've plowed through that plenty. i think what you're going to see now is the white house wants to attack a little bit of time, be thoughtful how public -- what they say publicly versus how much maneuverer ability is there. the other unnamed player is chuck shumer. chuck schumer publicly said i like simpson bowls in the it made an effort but i don't like what they're trying to do with taxes. we can't do this with tax reform. taxes should go up. he wants to move the negotiating position on the democrats in a little bit of a differe
look, i think the white house was pleasantly surprised and open to what john boehner said. i mean, obviously, they appreciated what they thought was a very thoughtful and well thought out position that speaker boehner made publicly about where he sees the negotiations, where he's publicly putting out there where he's willing to move for now. obviously, everything's in negotiation, everything's a little bit of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came...
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john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >> delighted to be here. >> you predicted thi
john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are...
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john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in a little bubble next to the man's name on a piece of paper is technically how we endorse a person in america. mr. mcconnell does not see it that way. on the political wire the romney's campaign would have could have should have transition website today. surely, this was not supposed to go live until mr. romney actually won the election. the campaign did not wait. they presumably accidentally put it up, a transition website for president-elect romney, how to apply for a job with the new romney administration. looks like because they screen shot it before they finally
john boehner and mitch mcconnell were still asleep and no woke them up. since then, they have made statements about what they see happening in this next year, indicating that maybe they also slept through the part of the night when the results of the election came in. mr. mcconnell put out a statement what's clear about this election is that the voters have not endorsed president obama's first term. the fact that the president won the election is not an endorsement of the president? filling in...
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house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> last night, he revealed to diane sawyer that his party was no longer seeking to repeal the affordable care act. >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care. >> there may be parts of it that we believe need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> but hours after that interview, boehner shrouded himself once again tweeting, obama care is law of the land but it is raising costs and threatening jobs. our goal has been and will remain #full
house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone...
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and that's where john boehner is refusing to start out in the negotiations. also, the person who is missing from the sound bites we just say, the video we saw was mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate. he's up in 2014. he's got rand paul, a tea party guy, as his other republican senator in the state. mcconnell's worried about a challenge from the right to the point where he hired rand paul's campaign manager who was ron paul's campaign manager to be his mcconnell campaign manager coming up. so mitch mcconnell is the missing piece of the puzzle here. he's the person the president has had the least success in dealing with. they have no personal relationship whatwhatsoever, th president and john boehner played golf once or twice. boehner as a person is of a more amenable guy. the white house wants a deal, and the reason they want a deal is because of the economy. if we get tangled up here in d.c. and go over the cliff or down the gradual slope, it's not -- it's not going to be good for the economy. there are people waiting to invest. there's a wor
and that's where john boehner is refusing to start out in the negotiations. also, the person who is missing from the sound bites we just say, the video we saw was mitch mcconnell, the republican leader of the senate. he's up in 2014. he's got rand paul, a tea party guy, as his other republican senator in the state. mcconnell's worried about a challenge from the right to the point where he hired rand paul's campaign manager who was ron paul's campaign manager to be his mcconnell campaign manager...
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remember two years ago john boehner was trumpeting the tea party. this was the movement that swept him into power in 2010, those midterms. now you hear him singing a very different tune, a very different tune than mitch mcconnell four years ago, pledging his only responsibility, job number one, was to see this was a one-term president. so that's some groundwork for the president also, where he's got a playing field that will be much more easier for him to reach out. again, i think he initially saw this campaign as a referendum on the way that republicans governed. if you look at those exit polls, it does show that there is support for the way the president wants to reform the tax code, raising taxes on the middle class, having those bush tax cuts expire. so there is some momentum that he has. it's not a clear, clear mandate because the popular vote, i think, was so close, but on that electoral map, it was a real walloping for republicans and the way that they have governed and the way they have gone about approaching very important issues. this is a
remember two years ago john boehner was trumpeting the tea party. this was the movement that swept him into power in 2010, those midterms. now you hear him singing a very different tune, a very different tune than mitch mcconnell four years ago, pledging his only responsibility, job number one, was to see this was a one-term president. so that's some groundwork for the president also, where he's got a playing field that will be much more easier for him to reach out. again, i think he initially...
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rather, can john boehner, i like the term herd cats in a wheel barrow in this one? >> if he's determined to do so, i think he can. the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first statement election night after president obama won, to say the least not very generous. >> not quite bipartisan. >> if mcconnell holds to that line, then big trouble for the obama agenda and for what boehner and others hoped to accomplish and big trouble for the country. some things you feel congress is so out of touch, i don't know how they could be after this election but, you know, there's out of date as these belt and slacks men used to wear. >> the metaphors are beautiful. >> belts and slacks. >> i love it. >> but i actually think there is a lot of truth there, which is they have th
rather, can john boehner, i like the term herd cats in a wheel barrow in this one? >> if he's determined to do so, i think he can. the key here is mitch mcconnell in the senate. he's up for re-election in 2014. he is the key. both for president obama and for the house majority leader boehner. mitch mcconnell at least in public he tendses to look at president obama like a hitchhiker with pets or something. he doesn't want anything to do with him. if he continues to hold it, his first...
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can john boehner, do you think john boehner can corral or quiet the more radical elements of the republican party to come to the table with the president to make a grand deal in some form or fashion? >> ultimately, yes. i think those are the starting negotiating positions which are understandable. you have obama 250, you have republicans at least admitting there needs to be new revenue and want to go through the loopholes first and see where they can get revenue there. that's obviously not going to be enough. some point they're going to have to give on it. it may be ultimately that we have a situation where they -- the tax cut dozen expire. we go off the cliff for 24 hours but that offers the republicans an opportunity to come back and vote for a tax cut for those under 250 rather than increase through extension. that's an outcome that's possible. >> i'm curious about the notion the republicans can save face if we go over the fiscal cliff although lately people have been calling it the fiscal curb, it's unclear how much of a steep drop it is in the first 24 hours. can republicans, if the pr
can john boehner, do you think john boehner can corral or quiet the more radical elements of the republican party to come to the table with the president to make a grand deal in some form or fashion? >> ultimately, yes. i think those are the starting negotiating positions which are understandable. you have obama 250, you have republicans at least admitting there needs to be new revenue and want to go through the loopholes first and see where they can get revenue there. that's obviously...
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could john boehner face another revolt? >>> first, we go back to florida, ground zero for head counts and election nights with no winners, again? this is msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. >>> from his ranch in crawford, texas, governor bush voiced his objections to a third recount of ballots in florida. >> we've had one count and then we had another count. and fortunately, we won both counts. >> by going to court, bush is hoping to insure his lead in florida unofficially a 327-vote marnellen doesn't change in tallahassee today, former secretary of state, james baker, repeated his argument that hand-counting is subjective and unreliable a
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we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did you know that? >> no. you said that to me last week. he is sort of the adult in the room in a lot of cases. consider the fact that the members of congress who are freshman and sophomores in their first two terms, the highest number since world war ii, we've got all of these new people coming to washington who don't know how the town works, how the legislating process works and everybody sort of wants to fix everything right away and they wanted to fix it on their own terms. john boehner has been around for a long time and sort of knows how these deals work, how to stitch togethe
we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did...
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i suspect that john boehner, if he wanted to, within a lame duck session could get what he wanted. >> i have to say, i think that i'm not that hopeful there's going to be a lot of change here. i'll channel ari since he's not here, he's got 99 problems, at least 80. while the gop has sort of removed some of the toxic assets like joe walsh and probably alan west, they are in states like illinois and florida. in the deep south where the tea party is the strongest. those people aren't going anywhere. i've just been reading almost nothing but conservative media just for the last 24 hours to see what people are saying. >> wow. >> to see what they're saying. i don't sense one iota of belief that their core values, their core belief system, needs to change. they think they need to put more window dressing on it find more black and brown people to say the exact same things they believe. they don't believe they need to change their positions on issues. they believe they need to change the decoration. >> i think that's right but i think what has changed is the landscape of the negotiations. and
i suspect that john boehner, if he wanted to, within a lame duck session could get what he wanted. >> i have to say, i think that i'm not that hopeful there's going to be a lot of change here. i'll channel ari since he's not here, he's got 99 problems, at least 80. while the gop has sort of removed some of the toxic assets like joe walsh and probably alan west, they are in states like illinois and florida. in the deep south where the tea party is the strongest. those people aren't going...
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how did the dynamics change for john boehner? do you agree that he is more empowered two years later to go back to his caucus and strike a deal? >> reporter: i assume he is, but i don't know if he can do it. and that's a great -- you know, i think the next three months are going to be fascinating to watch. does boehner have the guts to go and bring a compromise deal to the house floor that won't get a majority of his republican conference? can he -- does he have the guts to do that if the senate comes up with a compromise that gets 65 votes, gets 10 republicans on board, does he have the guts to do something like that? i don't know. i mean, you know, another part of this republican hand wringing that i'm surprised we're not hearing about is, you know, a lot of the reasons why, for instance, republicans lost senate seats, didn't gain them, but lost them. forget what happened two years ago in 2010 when they didn't win as many as they could have. they lost senate seats, which is still the biggest surprise, i think, of this election.
how did the dynamics change for john boehner? do you agree that he is more empowered two years later to go back to his caucus and strike a deal? >> reporter: i assume he is, but i don't know if he can do it. and that's a great -- you know, i think the next three months are going to be fascinating to watch. does boehner have the guts to go and bring a compromise deal to the house floor that won't get a majority of his republican conference? can he -- does he have the guts to do that if the...
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house republican john boehner, the republican speaker of the house, says absolutely not. taxes will not rise. it cannot pass the congress. it cannot pass the house. probably can't pass the senate in his estimation. he's digging in his heels. he says we can raise revenues, taxes on the wealthy by closing loopholes. that's the appreciate thoach tho take. there's a lot at stake here if we go over that fiscal cliff. it sounds so ominous because it is. a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for american families over the course of just one year alone. add to that the cuts in defense and domestic spending $1 trillion over ten years and the cbo estimates the unemployment rate will shoot up to 9.1%. we could go back into another recession. some democrats are encouraging the president to stick to his guns. john yarmouth is one of those. >> if you look behind what they're saying, they're not willing to compromise in any way that touches wealthy americans. i'm not at all set on $250,000. i think that is a number that really is probably the wrong number. when i've had conversations
house republican john boehner, the republican speaker of the house, says absolutely not. taxes will not rise. it cannot pass the congress. it cannot pass the house. probably can't pass the senate in his estimation. he's digging in his heels. he says we can raise revenues, taxes on the wealthy by closing loopholes. that's the appreciate thoach tho take. there's a lot at stake here if we go over that fiscal cliff. it sounds so ominous because it is. a half a trillion dollars in extra taxes for...
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that's the struggle that john boehner's having right now. but it will further define the republican party. and if they can't come to grips with a balanced deal, where you're asking the wealthiest in the country, who have made so much money over the last decade, then that really shows what kind of party they are. and this is about the values that we hold as americans, ed. this is not about numbers. this is about values. >> well, you know, when you look at the way this is setting up, this has got a lot of 2014 talk to it already. i mean, these republicans are going to have to go home and explain, well, i couldn't go along with the tax cuts for the 98% of americans. that would put them against the middle class, wouldn't it? >> yeah. i mean, imagine on friday, when they're all sitting around the table, and the president says, hey, fellas, you know, you're going to be responsible for raising taxes on middle class americans. and if you fail to agree to this top 1% or top 2% tax increase that we're asking for, you go out. the microphones are in the
that's the struggle that john boehner's having right now. but it will further define the republican party. and if they can't come to grips with a balanced deal, where you're asking the wealthiest in the country, who have made so much money over the last decade, then that really shows what kind of party they are. and this is about the values that we hold as americans, ed. this is not about numbers. this is about values. >> well, you know, when you look at the way this is setting up, this...
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same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen, you are absolutely right, and you have your chance to speak. but you're not going to drive the party's identity. you're not going to drive the message. and i as the leader of the party in the house now can be able to go to the white house and make a deal. there is going to be a deal struck. you're absolutely right. and this will be a story for a while. then they come together and get it out of here. we'll start talking about something else because we as republicans need to talk about something else. the fiscal cliff is not making the republicans any more popular. and ri
same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen,...
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so far that idea has been shot down by the republican speaker of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow the structure we have of oversight to function and i think the intelligence committee is more than capable of handling this. in other words, the senate is getting information so maybe we should, you know, get information instead of continuing to scream on tv about not getting information. here's how you know when somebody is being disingenuous. when they demand something and then you give them that thing that they just keep demanding about and they pretend that you're not giving it to them and they just keep making the demand anyway as if it hasn't been met. john mccain obviously sees some advantage
so far that idea has been shot down by the republican speaker of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow...
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surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pres
surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i...
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john boehner will then have gotten his speakership back and i think he will be in a stronger position. if you let them go every republican can vote for a tax cut. hr-1 i can bet is a middle class tax cut. >> that's semantics. i don't know why people would want to bring it to the brink ben. of course, they had the debate with the debt ceiling and the same thing they did with the t.a.r.p. they voted it down and then voted it up. >> it's a crazy way to govern but there we have it. speaker boehner, topless or otherwise. joy reid, david corn, and bill cohen, thank you all. apologies to david for that offensive anal si. >>> coming up, congress is back, the fiscal cliff is near. will house republicans finally think of the good of the country and not the good of this guy? >> the president was committed -- elected on the basis that he was not romney and that romney was a poopy head and you should vote against romney. [ female announcer ] so how long have you been living flake-free with head & shoulders? since before jeans were this skinny... since us three got a haircut. since my first twenty-
john boehner will then have gotten his speakership back and i think he will be in a stronger position. if you let them go every republican can vote for a tax cut. hr-1 i can bet is a middle class tax cut. >> that's semantics. i don't know why people would want to bring it to the brink ben. of course, they had the debate with the debt ceiling and the same thing they did with the t.a.r.p. they voted it down and then voted it up. >> it's a crazy way to govern but there we have it....
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you have john boehner suggest that maybe he's going to be the leader. you can already see them sharpening their knives for him. it seems to me and then he'll be replaced by somebody else who will be in the same position, it just seems that anybody who will try to get into some position of being rational and talking straight is going to be undermined by his own party. >> victoria, you do have some moderate republicans increasingly calling out the conservative meet i can't establishment. listen to this for example. >> the conservative followship has been pleased, exploited and lied to. >> we have the media elite in a sense on the right, they're making millions of dollars talking about all the incendiary aspects where we need solutions. >> if i were a donor, my biggest problem would be that i was laid to. the conservative media establishment, they lied to the donors. they lied to the base. they lied to everybody about how romney was ahead. >> now, victoria, can these more moderate voices at least moderate compared to the tea party, can they gain traction a
you have john boehner suggest that maybe he's going to be the leader. you can already see them sharpening their knives for him. it seems to me and then he'll be replaced by somebody else who will be in the same position, it just seems that anybody who will try to get into some position of being rational and talking straight is going to be undermined by his own party. >> victoria, you do have some moderate republicans increasingly calling out the conservative meet i can't establishment....
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the confetti was still on the floor after the celebration in chicago, and house speaker john boehner was already hinting at another major fight in congress over taxes and spending. >> in order to garner republican support for new revenues, the president must be willing to reduce spending and shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers. mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> president obama will make a statement tomorrow in the east room. the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes kicked in january 1st if washington can't reach a deal. a lot of people fear it's going to be a repeat of what happened in 2011 when the republicans 4e8d the debt ceiling hostage to get what they wanted. but thing, i guess, you could say are a bit different. we are two days removed from a landslide victory, as well as a new 55-45 democratic senate majority. the president is also the winner of the popular vote. did you hear that, republicans? winner of the popular vote with the majority of the country supporting him. the o
the confetti was still on the floor after the celebration in chicago, and house speaker john boehner was already hinting at another major fight in congress over taxes and spending. >> in order to garner republican support for new revenues, the president must be willing to reduce spending and shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers. mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> president obama will...
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house republicans re-elected john boehner as speaker so he's sure to be a major player in negotiations again. time to "backspin." we have all the same people in power. i want to start by saying, look, i do not have the appetite for the fighting that we saw over the past four years. >> good. >> thought it was childish. i do not think compromise, the "c" world is a dirty one. the idea there's a mandate is a little flawed, for a number of reasons. the mandate for obama to go forward was certainly rubber stamped by his voters, but clearly romney's voters would say there's a man daylight for t -- mandate for the republican voters as well. they voted for that message. and when people voted for obama and people voted for romney, they were both saying these are the messages we want you to put forward. if obama moves to the right, who's he representing? not the folks who voted for him. if romney moves to the left, who's he representing? not the folks that voted for him. coming to the middle seems arbitrary like you're representing no one. i think the real thing to say is that both parties need
house republicans re-elected john boehner as speaker so he's sure to be a major player in negotiations again. time to "backspin." we have all the same people in power. i want to start by saying, look, i do not have the appetite for the fighting that we saw over the past four years. >> good. >> thought it was childish. i do not think compromise, the "c" world is a dirty one. the idea there's a mandate is a little flawed, for a number of reasons. the mandate for...
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can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's
can john boehner match him in any of those departments? >> -- he said i'm open to new revenue. he didn't say whatever -- eliminating deductions -- it's not. you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate...
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i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was co
i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday...
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house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about? >> i made clear -- >> to have the wealthier americans pitch in. >> -- that raising tax rates is unacceptable. frankly, it couldn't pass the house. >> you will talk about it even if it's the wrong approach. >> of course we'll talk about it. we'll talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> speaker boehner sounded ready to pull b
house speaker john boehner yesterday remained steadfast in his position on raising taxes. >> i remain optimistic we're going to be able to find common ground avoid this fiscal cliff and find a way to work together. >> by when? january 1st? >> i would hope so. >> the president is talking about specific increases. he campaigned on specific increases and tax rates from 35% to 39% for those making more than $250,000. so is that on the table right now? >> raising taxes...
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poor john boehner who has the worst job is forced to do this fan dance. the day after the election is intimate that is they can come to the table and strike a bargain but has to shuffle back and keep him in the house and whipped by the gop which is to say say, chastised that this may be tax increased i am of the mibd that there is a big conversation as to where they go from here. and i have a hope that they understand if they are going to survive past 2016 they need to make serious changes not just in terms of having a brown person on stage but really a cultural shift within the party and that includes being able to bargain and putting a plan on the table. >> it couldn't have gotten worse in january there will be more democratic members of the house of representatives. i don't see any reason for the president and the democrats not to wait until january op n doing anything on this. i'm with you 1,000 percent on the off the cliff strategy. we have to get chris an off the cliff button >> here are two things that i would say. it is very interesting. fiscal cl
poor john boehner who has the worst job is forced to do this fan dance. the day after the election is intimate that is they can come to the table and strike a bargain but has to shuffle back and keep him in the house and whipped by the gop which is to say say, chastised that this may be tax increased i am of the mibd that there is a big conversation as to where they go from here. and i have a hope that they understand if they are going to survive past 2016 they need to make serious changes not...
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i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being surrounded by supporters behind him, and not take questions from the press. you remember there were famous press conferences by president george w. bush when he was re-elected and bill clinton and ronald reagan when he was re-elected. the president can deal with the market's concerns about whether he needs to reach a deal by doing that. >> let me reiterate what we were talking about earlier this hour, you all in particular have been discussing and looking at cabinet decisions. we have reported that there has been conversation about the future of david petraeus. that he was, according to all r
i think john boehner and barack obama said this has to be a balanced approach. balance is in the eye of beholder in terms of how much of each part of it goes into the final deal. >> susan. >> you know, there's one way that president obama could deal with these questions about specificity, and that's to take some questions from reporters and answer them. this is really unusual for a president just re-elected to come out and talk to the reporters by reading a statement, being...
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john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal. >> bill, if you're a betting man and how would you bet that this thing plays out. >> the fiscal cliff, we will not go over it. the president has already said sequestration has not happened. the republicans got the message of this election. that's how they are different. it's the same people but then reality has come face-to-face with them. they do not want to be held responsible for a recession. the president never has to pace the voters again. they do. and the fear of god has been struck. >> bill schneider, lynn sweet, stick around. we're going to talk to you later in this hour, if you don't mind. >>> meanwhile
john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal....
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is there a deal that john boehner can make -- >> and sell to his caucus. >> and remain speaker. you have to look at some of the republicans in the senate who signed up with the gang of six plan and whether they can now act like the grown-ups and whip those tea party kindergarteners into some shape at some point. it's a big -- >> it's a big if. >> this was a bad election for the tea party. so there is some incentive for boehner to push back somewhat on that coalition. >> but i still think if you look at the numbers of the house caucus, it's more tea partyish than not. anything he does, he still has to retain the support of half of his caucus. >> it means -- >> very quickly, jared. >> one thing i keep hearing though that goes kind of the other way from this pin brick of light, i have these debates with republicans who say you won, now tell us what you're going to giver me. >> absolutely. brilliant. jared bernstein, david corn, anana marie cox. thank you all. next, more denial from the right and their shrinking membership. stay with us. >> last night due to the technicality called
is there a deal that john boehner can make -- >> and sell to his caucus. >> and remain speaker. you have to look at some of the republicans in the senate who signed up with the gang of six plan and whether they can now act like the grown-ups and whip those tea party kindergarteners into some shape at some point. it's a big -- >> it's a big if. >> this was a bad election for the tea party. so there is some incentive for boehner to push back somewhat on that coalition....
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you had both harry reid and john boehner ready to go here, talking about this and they did begin with a tone that suggests a willingness to work together. kind of a post-election glow. but there are real differences. when you have harry reid who now has an even stronger advantage in the senate, talking about they don't want to be push around, he said. he would be willing to be conciliatory, another of his words, but they have a very strong view that voters are telling them that higher tax rates for the wealthiest would be essential to trying to deal with the long-term deficit. now john boehner had a very staged -- and i mean that in the setting type of speech, not in the words that he chose -- but he doesn't always use a teleprompter, doesn't always give a formal speech. >> yeah, this was very carefully done. in fact, i was talking to one white house source who was impressed, like, okay, that was very thoughtful. they think, okay, this is going to be serious. maybe there's something big here to be done. go ahead, kelly. >> i think that does suggest that boehner who easily won his re-e
you had both harry reid and john boehner ready to go here, talking about this and they did begin with a tone that suggests a willingness to work together. kind of a post-election glow. but there are real differences. when you have harry reid who now has an even stronger advantage in the senate, talking about they don't want to be push around, he said. he would be willing to be conciliatory, another of his words, but they have a very strong view that voters are telling them that higher tax rates...
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dana, on the planet republican, john boehner was just re-elected to the speakership. he seems to think with his re-election comes the bigger mandate. is he serious? does he even have a mandate among hits own house republicans? >> i'm sure the voters of john boehner's district near cincinnati, ohio, do -- have given him a mandate to do exactly what he's doing. but he needs to represented the entire country when he's speaker of the house. >> oh, yes. cue remind him of that? >> there has to be a little bit of a game going on after the election. as both sides lay out their positions here. the president, i think, was doing some justifiable chest-thumping today saying, look, guys, i won this election last week. he's not budging on his position. it appears, as a matter of policy, the republicans are at least showing some indication to move, even while attempting to rhetorically deny the president this mandate. >> that's a contortion. paul ryan is leading the charge. here he is about his own shellacking. >> you don't think there's a mandate? >> i don't, because they would hav
dana, on the planet republican, john boehner was just re-elected to the speakership. he seems to think with his re-election comes the bigger mandate. is he serious? does he even have a mandate among hits own house republicans? >> i'm sure the voters of john boehner's district near cincinnati, ohio, do -- have given him a mandate to do exactly what he's doing. but he needs to represented the entire country when he's speaker of the house. >> oh, yes. cue remind him of that? >>...
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how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who were here without papers through no fault of their own. when president obama announced that, beltway reporters immediately went to the republican leaders in congress to see what's the official response tr that? what's the official position on that issue. here's what the reporters were told by the republicans in congress. "senate republican leader mitch mcconnell said that gop lawmakers will wait for mitt romney to take the lead on immigration policy. most members are interested in what romney has to say about this issue
how about john boehner? speaker of the house, previous speakers have been able to fashion that job into a national leadership role. but john boehner has not done that. no disrespect, but nobody thinks of him as the leader of the republican party. mitt romney did have that job. mitt romney for awhile was the leader of the republican party. we can prove it with evidence. this past june president obama walked out into the rose garden and announced he was going to stop the deportation of kids who...
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. >> congressman, what is john boehner's next move? what do you think is going to happen? >> he's going to meet with the president. they are going to meet next week. i think he's going to have to face the reality that either now, that is in the lame duck session, their 200-plus democratic votes ready to go on the president's plan. that's about 18 republicans we would need. and boehner has to understand that we actually must work across the aisle to solve this problem. otherwise we're not going to get it done. the american public demands we work together. just imagine what we could do if we actually worked together. we can solve some serious problems. we could do the american jobs act and the infrastructure and rebuild new york and new jersey, desperately needed there. serious investment needs to be made on our infrastructure. we can only do that if we work across the aisle. the president has laid out a very good starting point to get the negotiations underway. >> no doubt. congressman larson, do you think there are any republicans in their caucus that will come over and wo
. >> congressman, what is john boehner's next move? what do you think is going to happen? >> he's going to meet with the president. they are going to meet next week. i think he's going to have to face the reality that either now, that is in the lame duck session, their 200-plus democratic votes ready to go on the president's plan. that's about 18 republicans we would need. and boehner has to understand that we actually must work across the aisle to solve this problem. otherwise...
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and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean, that's just an amazing, amazing, amazing switch from where we even were on the campaign trail last week. >> well, that's right, luke. and also governor bob mcdonnell said something else. elections have consequences and that, of course, was a line republicans used in 2011 during the debt ceiling negotiations as well as all of the other times they were actually trying to trim the budget deficit saying, look, this is why we were elected in 2010 to come and do this. now president obama has that same argument in 2012. look, the presidential contest was fought on the contours of raising taxes on the wealthy.
and i can guarantee the white house and president obama may show those quotes of john boehner and eric cantor. >> haley barbour on taxes, and this is from the republican governors association meeting in la las vegas. quote, if there's enough savings, if there's enough certainty about tax reform the next few years, i would, former governor haley barbour said when asked whether his party should consider softening its opposition to letting the bush tax cuts on the wealthiest expire. i mean,...